Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!glacier!kestrel!ladkin From: ladkin@kestrel.ARPA (Peter Ladkin) Newsgroups: net.math,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Tarski's definition of truth Message-ID: <5961@kestrel.ARPA> Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 21:39:35 EST Article-I.D.: kestrel.5961 Posted: Tue Mar 18 21:39:35 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Mar-86 04:49:32 EST References: <12411@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <12454@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.math:2984 net.philosophy:4537 In article <12454@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) writes [regarding Tarski's truth defn]: > Two points. First truth in logic refers to truth in some model. > Not to any absolute truth. Second, any logical sentence can be > broken down into well determined atomic formulas. Each of these > atomic formulas has a definite truth value within the model. I'm not sure I agree with your first point. Logical validity is defined by quantifying over all models, by Tarski. Validity is not *absolute*? Secondly, atomic formulas do not have a definite truth value within the model. They have truth values *under an assignment*. A formula can only have a definite truth value in your sense if its universal closure is true, or if the universal closure of its negation is false. Peter Ladkin