Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!hound!mtglass From: mtglass@hound.UUCP (R.RICHARDSON) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.misc Subject: Re: "Free Energy Machine" Message-ID: <1683@hound.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Mar-86 18:59:42 EST Article-I.D.: hound.1683 Posted: Wed Mar 12 18:59:42 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Mar-86 06:13:20 EST References: <326@inuxm.UUCP> <213@lanl.ARPA>, <270@birtch.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.physics:3925 net.misc:9368 I think we've reached the crux of the issue here: there are energy sources of physical interest and there are energy sources of economic interest. We each have a certain portfolio of resources available to us (as do nations as a whole) and while some energy sources may be particularly "efficient" from a physical point of view they may simply not stack up economicly: thus you are more apt to find coal plants in Indiana and geothermal plants in Iceland. We must also keep in mind that different people have different portfolios. Many times it's cheaper in 3rd world countries to use manual labor than to purchase machinery. We should not interpret this as backwardness: merely a sign that this country is a pocket of cheap labor. If this fellow's invention can be manufactured economicly then somebody should and probably will produce it. One parameter I am holding constant, however, is politics. It's concievable that a political power with a large interest in the current energy infra structure could buy up the patent and bury it claiming the research "didn't pan out". Many people feel this happened with photovoltaic research by the oil companies in the 1970's. Another disturbingly parallel political phenomena arises from the scientific community itself. People who have put a lot of work into the prevailing outlook will naturally resist innovation. Indeed, even on the net the reaction to such situations is often surprisingly parochial. "There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom" Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923 "Heavier than air flying machines are impossible" Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Socety, c 1895 "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros. Pictures, c 1927 usual disclaimers R. Richardson