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From: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: net.motss
Subject: Re: "breeders" - unintentionally hurtful ?
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Date: Sat, 8-Mar-86 13:40:53 EST
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Posted: Sat Mar  8 13:40:53 1986
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In article <701@osiris.UUCP> jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) writes:
>	Just a quick point about using the term breeder to refer to
>heterosexuals - there are a number of people who would love to have
>children, are even desperate to do so, and can't. I suspect that to
>call an infertile person a "breeder" to their face would inflict 
>unnecessary emotional pain, which while I would doubt that anyone in 
>this group would *want* to do that, might do so unintentionally. (Not
>unlike all those thoughtless relatives who demand to know if "something's
>in the oven" and other crude questions which are none of their business).
>jcpatilla
>..{seismo,allegra}!umcp-cs!aplcen!osiris!jcp 


You are now in the running for the " Miss Manners award for the terminally 
self effacing ".  :-)

Lets get real about name calling. Any cultural group is bound to develop
unkind tags for another cultural group that is significantly different, and the level of unkindness or sarcasm is bound to rise depending on the level
of hostility between the groups. I feel no guilt in the matter of refering
to heterosexuals as breeders ofr more generically as the breding population.
However I also don't use it outside of Gay cultural settings. On the other hand
one has only to walk down the streets of any city in America displaying
affection to another man (like holding hands) and I guarantee that an un-
pleasant and perhaps violent reaction complete with several varietys of 
nasty names will be forthcoming. I thought that the scene in "Color Purple"
where a female character is busted for saying "hell" to a white woman is
a good example of double standards for oppressed minoritys.
At least Blacks are seen as a minority, gays are denied the right to sue for
equality because the radical religious right denies that we are anything other
than an undesirable phenomenon. 
Isn't it interesting that white (occasinally) breeding nuclear family Amerika
mouths the ideal of the golden rule....[ Do unto others as you would have them 
do unto you] but when it is discovered that they are doing someone dirty the
focus changes to "Turn the other cheek ". It seems to me that the charter to 
stop the name calling is best served by going to the root of the bigotry
against Gay people and that my dear is known as "the ball is in THEIR 
(You know the great grey they) court"

When all the names are dropped we are all just people, fat skinny black white
yellow silly wise strange and dull. Whats a few adjectives amongst friends right?
LUX .. on
Owen Rowley 
hplabs!hpda!on