Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!drillsys!gatech!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: New newsgroup proceedures, voting.. Message-ID: <1195@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 03:13:36 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1195 Posted: Thu Mar 6 03:13:36 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 00:49:43 EST References: <5075@alice.uUCp> <3326@sun.uucp> Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 50 I have always been a firm believer in democratic procedure. This principle, I velieve, should be used in USENET as well. Otherwise, we have the current situation where a few control the masses (can you say dictatorship, I knew you could!) I do not mean the previous statement as a slur against those who keep the network running, however there have been isolated incidents which resulted in lots of confusion, anger and (worst of all) postings which wouldn't have been posted if more democratic means had been taken to solve the problems. My model of how the USENET voting procedure would run is similar to that of the electoral college. Each site gets to vote based upon how many feeds they have, whether news developers are at that site, or news moderators, or uucp map keepers, or what have you. These factors will have to be weighted of course. The site vote is cast in the person of the news administrator. There are those who seem to have a problem with this scheme. I wonder why this is so. Do these same people complain about political elections? I do not see them writing letters to their Congressmen or Senators claiming that the elections are unfair, because their states may not have enough free space to accomodate new technology, out-of-state/country individuals, etc. Perhaps I am reaching a bit, but bear with me. I guess what I am tryng to say is that fair is fair. What goes on in USENET should not be decided by a select few, it should be decided in a democratic manner. There should be some agreement among those who participate in USENET that yes, you will have to play by the rules, or else you have to get out of the game. (I know no such agreement exists now, but in the future, failure to comply with the by-laws of the net should be met with the possible suspension and/or removal of a site from the net.) One other thing: I do not believe there should be a ceiling on the # of groups that are allowed. Since some sites don't carry all the groups anyway, there's no reason why they should have direct influence over those sites who are willing to carry them. In closing, I have heard comments in the vein of "people do not realize the responsibility inherent in anarchy". I wonder, for those who favor a backbone-run network, do you realize the danger inherent in dictatorship? -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu