Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site philabs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!ams From: ams@philabs.UUCP (Ali Shaik) Newsgroups: net.nlang.india Subject: Re: Muslim Personal Law " shariat " Message-ID: <616@philabs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 11:36:07 EST Article-I.D.: philabs.616 Posted: Mon Mar 10 11:36:07 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Mar-86 08:04:50 EST Reply-To: ams@philabs.UUCP (Ali Shaik) Organization: Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 59 Keywords: politics, religion, law,... >the turmoil the Muslim community in India is >undergoing due to the controversial judgement >issued by the Supereme court restoring alimony ... >judgement has been so bitterly opposed by the clergy >" Mullas " as no others has been in recent times. I read "India Abroad" over the weekend, they have a report on this too. It seems Gandhi got some sort of discussion going among various groups, and the result is a proposed bill which would amend sec. 125 of the Indian Penal Code (this would make it impossible for women like Shah Bano to obtain reasonable alimony through the courts, and also anull the award by the Supreme Court in her favor). The minister for Energy a Mr ?Khan?, quit over this issue: he felt he couldnt continue in the Gandhi govt after this proposed bill (is this a try by Mr G. to get back the muslim vote?). Womens groups have protested against this bill. Now I can understand some amount of paranoia in the Muslim community, about the Hindu majority trying to interfere in Muslim (religious) affairs, but fighting the alimony decision is simply ridiculous. It falls entirely within the area of civil rights of women, and everyone should accept the Supreme Court decision. Some might say this is interference with Muslim law: I would like to mention that other "fundamental" tenets of Islam, like the need to have an Islamic State, are out of place and cannot be satisfied in India (*neither* for that matter can we have a Hindu State, or Christian State, or Jewish State in India). Muslims in a democratic country such as India have an opportunity, existing in very few places around the world, to evolve an Islamic community which is free of some of the outdated fundamentalist notions. Having a name like "Ali Shaik," (with or without the Bangalore) I do not want to appear to beat up on the Muslims in India: what I am against is unfairness based on religion, be it among Muslims or Hindus or Christians or Jews. So I would like to have more discussion on this topic, including info from those knowledgeable about Hindu law. Those who followed the stuff about Manu, etc would know all is not well there either. Specifically, property rights of Hindu women are pretty bad, aren't they: is it true that property would go to the eldest son rather than the widow? and that property is divided unequally among sons& daughters (sure, this holds among Muslims too..). And what correlation does this have with the dowry system: do lower property rights lead to lower "economic worth" of women? And last but not the least, much as I am for the things Mr. Gandhi seems to be doing these days, supporting the mullahs on this issue would be grounds to vote anti- Cong(I). Is he afraid of communal violence, or of losing the votes? The Minister for Energy deserves much support for both his views and his resignation. Ali Shaik ..ihnp4!philabs!ams ..ucbvax!/