Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.berkeley.edu!rimey From: rimey@ernie.berkeley.edu (Ken Rimey) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Re: "Free Energy Machine" Message-ID: <12434@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 16-Mar-86 19:25:35 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12434 Posted: Sun Mar 16 19:25:35 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Mar-86 01:39:59 EST References: <326@inuxm.UUCP> <1089@terak.UUCP> <1090@terak.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: rimey@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Ken Rimey) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 >> I can do one that *will* work in a closed box. > >My "free energy machine" taps the precession of a sizable gyroscope. >The source of the energy is the Earth's rotation. Perhaps we're >lucky that there isn't enough energy available this way to make it >worthwhile; I don't think that I'd accept a 25-hour day as the cost of >"free energy". >-- >Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {elrond,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug The axis of a good gyroscope will appear to move with a 24 hour period as the earth rotates underneath it. (Of course, the gyroscope is stationary; the earth moves.) Are you saying, slow down the earth by allowing such a gyroscope to do work? Conservation of angular momentum says you can't slow down the earth that way. Imagine that at noon the gyroscope is in its storage cabinet, not spinning. Take it out, spin it up, and use it to convert some of the earth's rotational energy into electricity. At noon the next day, stop its spin and put it back in the storage cabinet. By conservation of angular momentum, the earth's spin is the same as it was at noon the previous day. Where did that electrical energy come from? It is energy that you put into the gyroscope when you spun it up. Ken Rimey