Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site mtuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtuxn!gdf From: gdf@mtuxn.UUCP (G.FERRAIOLO) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.politics.theory Subject: Re: The Reason For Hunger Message-ID: <708@mtuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 13:33:04 EST Article-I.D.: mtuxn.708 Posted: Thu Mar 6 13:33:04 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 15:19:56 EST References: <358@ihnet.UUCP> <28200625@inmet.UUCP> <363@ihnet.UUCP> <344@gargoyle.UUCP>, <547@whuts.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel NJ Lines: 31 Xref: lsuc net.politics:3517 net.politics.theory:974 At last I'm an expert. Ever been to Newark, Tim? I lived there and in immdeiately surrounding towns for 99% of my life. Newark is not typical in any way of the US. It used to be quite a nice place to live. Not so anymore. Why? It is debateable. However it is not debateable that Newark is highly atypical. I know people who live in Livingston, NJ. (Fairly ritzy if you're not familiar with NJ towns). They could give a lot of equally meaningless personal reports. The flaw with the report (as presented here) is that it doesn't try to MEASURE hunger, it just plays with statistics. Especially, it assumes that the total resources available to the "hungry" are defined by the input described. This is untrue. Now for my meaningless personal report. I know a person who is totally dependent on government aid for her support, no children, and who runs out of food stamps early sometimes. I'm not sympathetic. Why? Am I just a cruel Reaganite? No, I'm a compassionate Reaganite, like most of us, but I know what she does with her money. Largely it is wasted on consumer goods. She exhibits no frugality and as such I think that her problems are mostly her fault. If there were kids, I'd try to help them, kids aren't responsible for the idiocy of their parents. Unfortunately, to do that it would be necessary to get the kids out of her control. (in the hypothetical case, since as I've said, she doesn't have any). Well, I guess that proves that all social spending is wasted, right Tim? Guy