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From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER)
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Subject: Reagan a pathological liar:re to Cramer
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Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 09:18:12 EST
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Clayton Cramer tried to defend Reagan's gross disregard for the truth
by simply lumping him with all politicians.  Certainly one must
*always* be skeptical about politicians - they all tend to mislead
and be loose with the truth.  But Reagan's distortions of the truth
are of a totally different character.  The few examples I listed of
Reagan's distortions are simply a *few* of his more outlandish 
misstatements of fact.  Just last week one of Reagan's lies was
captured graphically on videotape, making it very hard to refute.
Here are excerpts from the report in the Newark Star-Ledger:
    
    "Sons of bitches" said Reagan after reporters had been ushered
    from the Cabinet Room where the President had been questioned
    about the political turmoil in the Philipines.
       Later, as he left for his Camp David retreat in Maryland,
    Reagan was asked by reporters whom he had in mind, and he 
    replied, "I thought it was one of you saying it about us."
    When that was greeted by a good-natured chorus of "No", the
    President, smiling, said, "It wasn't me."
    Aides said Reagan did not recall making the remark nor hearing
    anyone else make it.
       But the phrase was clearly audible on the sound system and
    United Press International verified that it was Reagan who made
    the remark by viewing a tape made available by CBS, the only
    network that had a camera on Reagan at the time.
       .....
       Deputy White House press secretary Larry Speakes said,
    "He doesn't recall saying it.  If he said it," Speakes joked,
    "he said, 'It's sunny and you're rich'.
 
It is typical that Reagan simply "doesn't remember" making such
a remark 5 minutes after it  happened, and smiles as he lies
about having said it.
Sad to say I can only conclude the man is a pathological liar.

     tim sevener  whuxn!orb