Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 System V r3.0 02-Mar-86; site simon_pc.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!lll-lcc!simon_pc!simon From: simon@simon_pc.UUCP (Simon Shapiro) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: The Zionist Double Standard Message-ID: <162@simon_pc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 13:52:37 EST Article-I.D.: simon_pc.162 Posted: Wed Mar 5 13:52:37 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 15:27:45 EST References: <95@ubc-vision.UUCP> Organization: S*H & Company, Walnut Creek, California Lines: 69 Summary: Who is quiet?? In article <95@ubc-vision.UUCP>, mokhtar@ubc-vision.UUCP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes: > Subject: The Zionist Double-Standard > > Last week I wrote about an act of terrorism by the Haganah in which many jews > were killed. Some time ago, I wrote about several acts of terrorism by the > Haganah and the Irgun and the Stern in which many Arab civilians died. > In both cases, there were no shouts of "liar, liar", no cries of > anti-semitism, just the good old "Collective Silence Treatment". > > What does this silence mean? Why can't the zionists and other supporters of > Israel out there condemn zionist terrorism the same way that they condemn > Palestinian terrorism? Isn't Israel democratic and don't democratic nations > pride themselves in their capacity to accept real criticism? > > -- Farzin Mokhtarian > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Each one seeks to be stronger in his hatred." > Who is quiet? I was not, and few others with me. You do spread lies, you do tell half truths, we do respond but maybe you seem to miss them. I do not approve of terrorist attacks, wether they are done tody, or were done many years ago. I do look into what actually happened, in its FULL context, before I labels (oh so conviniently) as one thing or another. I do have my facts together (from beeing there, having my father or someone I know beeing there and I do plead, repeatedly to stop this hatread spreading and You are the one "...seeks to be strong in his hatred"! I pleaded before for a stop of this slandering and spreading of hate and I will do it again. I am strongly motivated to tell you "I will not respond to you and your hate spreading anymore. The reason that noone responds is that noone takes you seriously and you are beeing ignored" But I know that were I to let you go unheaded more of your postings will go on just like this one and maybe someone will start beliving you and your lies (I have not seen you, yet, denieing or explaining why terrorists do what they do, only questionable examples of "The jews did it too, therefore it is OK for us also.) You must hold the Early jewish 'terrorists' in high regard and admiration if their actions (?) are the only reasoning for yours, and if you hold them in such high regard and admiration, why are you so bent on murdering, killing and destroying them? Anyway, your lies will be answered! When the day comes and you want to recite some old stories about how jews and arabs are getting along just fine today, how help is rendered, how does the education system help arab nationals in Israel to progress, where did most the agricultural experts in the arab countries get their education, who were my mother- in-law best friends, and what can we DO to stop the hate and bring peace to this part of the worls, be assured: I will be there! I will ignore (and eventually forget) your slander and lies, I will make peace with you and treat you as a friend and a brother. But be warned! I am not stupid. I am careful. I will still be as strong as I have been until now and protect myself and my family very strongly if the need will ever come again. I want to make peace because I am strong, confident and know we can both prosper and be happier if we have peace. I am not calling for peace because I am weak. I hope that the eventsa of the last 5000 years managed to convince you that I am not the one to be impressed by brutal force. Yhe events of the last 50 years should convince you that military solution to political problems tend to benefit Israel greatly, and that political reversal of militart results is slow, painful and rather impossible at times. So wake-up guy, stop this nonsense and let's start talking. It is never too late! My love to you, Simon.