Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 Tandy Xenix 02/17/86; site gilbbs.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!well!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020 From: mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Tom Keller) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: In the Name of God Message-ID: <60@gilbbs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Mar-86 20:50:41 EST Article-I.D.: gilbbs.60 Posted: Sun Mar 9 20:50:41 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 05:15:41 EST References: <1680@ihlpg.UUCP> <11000126@uiucdcsb> Organization: Gil's Place, Santa Rosa CA Lines: 65 Summary: backoff from binary reasoning In article <11000126@uiucdcsb>, vanzandt@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > > You have been fooled by the scaffold of deception that surrounds the > Sandanistas and has from day 1. These people are Marxist-Leninists and > have looked towards Cuba And the USSR as their source of ideology since > the early stages of their revolution. Wake up. Don't use the excuse that > the Sandanista policies are a result of US aggression; back at the start > of their rule (post July '79) when the US was still friendly and giving > them economic aid, Borge and compatriots were traveling to Russia and > praising them for such things as the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. > Talk to the NICARAGUAN church officials about religious persecution - what > happened to the Sunday televised mass, the Catholic radio station, the 16+ > expelled priests and nuns, the Crusade for Christ ministry (an association > of nonaligned college student-missionaries), etc. Who cares if a homeboy > bishop went to Nicaragua and sat in Tomas Borge's inner sanctum and personally > witnessed the nice man looking at a Bible? I agree with Simon - an earlier > note complianing about the pro-Soviet stance of this net group - we > desperately need some rational thought in this .group. I don't recall seeing anyone claiming that the Sandinistas are wonderful, gentle, peace loving benefactors. *I* certainly never made any such claim! How is it that declaiming the support of the Contra Terrorists is a pro-Sviet stance? Remember who the Contras ARE. They are, by and large, the remnants of the Samosa secret police and army. They were hardly the democratic benefactors. They are interested only in re-instating their own dictatorship over the Nicarauguan people, not in any form of freedom (excepting possibly their freedom to oppress/repress). As I said in several other articles posted to this newsgroup, there appear to be an awfully large number of seemingly intelligent individuals positng here who are incapable of anything but binary reasoning. Because I deplore and condemn the support of the Contra terrorists in no way implies that I an any way support the Sandinista regime. I do not. I *DO* believe that the United States should keep out of it completely. The fact is that without US aid, the Contras would not be able to maintain their fight. Thus, if we assume that economic aid to the Contras qualifies as "American aggression" (a por choice of terms, I'll grant you), then it follows that the major violence in Nicaraugua is indeed the result of "American aggression", and that any measures taken by the Sandinistas to reduce the danger of such violence is in direct response to same. I suggest that all of you "freedom loving" Americans who believe so strongly in the support of terrorism by America (the Contras, Savimbe, etc.) go to one of these places and volunteer to fight. Go on, join the Contras! I would also suggest that you folks should donate additionaly funds over and above your legal tax burden, tagged specifically to go tot the terrorists. *I* do not choose to support terrorism, regardless of the bullshit euphemisms you care to use to disguise it. 'Nuff said. -- ==================================== Disclaimer: I hereby disclaim any and all responsibility for disclaimers. tom keller {ihnp4, dual}!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020 (* we may not be big, but we're small! *)