Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.politics.theory Subject: Reagan's hidden victims: the *working* poor Message-ID: <1030@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 17:46:56 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.1030 Posted: Mon Mar 10 17:46:56 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 05:24:40 EST References: <358@ihnet.UUCP> <28200625@inmet.UUCP> <363@ihnet.UUCP> <344@gargoyle.UUCP>, <547@whuts.UUCP> <708@mtuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 37 Xref: lsuc net.politics:3631 net.politics.theory:982 Guy gives the following personal account: > > Now for my meaningless personal report. I know a person who is totally > dependent on government aid for her support, no children, and who > runs out of food stamps early sometimes. I'm not sympathetic. > Why? Am I just a cruel Reaganite? No, I'm a compassionate Reaganite, > like most of us, but I know what she does with her money. Largely > it is wasted on consumer goods. She exhibits no frugality and as > such I think that her problems are mostly her fault. Now let me give my own personal account. When I was working my way through school I worked in the college cafeteria. The cafeteria was largely staffed by blacks who were descendants of the slaves of plantations in the Tidewater Virginia area. Their pay, even after years of working was just above the minimum wage. Several of the workers that I knew personally worked several jobs, one of them worked *two* fulltime jobs at 40 hours a week. They *had* to do that to survive and raise a family and have any kind of disposable income at all. They worked hard, and they were not lazy. These are precisely the sorts of people hurt worst by Reagan's budget ax. They have *not* benefitted from Reagan's tax giveaways: their taxes have increased proportionately more than any other income group. To the extent they may have been eligible for benefits under previous administrations who did not say you had to be absolutely without an income to obtain benefits they have also been hurt more than any other group: their benefits, whatever they may have been have been drastically decreased. (I will post statistical substantiation of this later) I agree that the welfare system needs reform. But please explain to me how crippling the *working* poor and providing no incentives to work by continuing to receive some minimal benefits after earning some income from a job helps anybody. tim sevener whuxn!orb