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From: gottlieb@alliant.UUCP (Bob Gottlieb)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Reagan a pathological liar
Message-ID: <185@alliant.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 21:09:50 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar 10 21:09:50 1986
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In article <1016@whuxl.UUCP> orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) writes:
>                        Just last week one of Reagan's lies was
>captured graphically on videotape, making it very hard to refute.
>Here are excerpts from the report in the Newark Star-Ledger:
>    
>    "Sons of bitches" said Reagan after reporters had been ushered
>    from the Cabinet Room where the President had been questioned
>    about the political turmoil in the Philipines.
>       Later, as he left for his Camp David retreat in Maryland,
>    Reagan was asked by reporters whom he had in mind, and he 
>    replied, "I thought it was one of you saying it about us."
>    When that was greeted by a good-natured chorus of "No", the
>    President, smiling, said, "It wasn't me."
>    Aides said Reagan did not recall making the remark nor hearing
>    anyone else make it.
>       But the phrase was clearly audible on the sound system and
>    United Press International verified that it was Reagan who made
>    the remark by viewing a tape made available by CBS, the only
>    network that had a camera on Reagan at the time.
>       .....
>       Deputy White House press secretary Larry Speakes said,
>    "He doesn't recall saying it.  If he said it," Speakes joked,
>    "he said, 'It's sunny and you're rich'.
> 
>It is typical that Reagan simply "doesn't remember" making such
>a remark 5 minutes after it  happened, and smiles as he lies
>about having said it.
>Sad to say I can only conclude the man is a pathological liar.
>
>     tim sevener  whuxn!orb

I certainly agree with the facts, but disagree with the conclusion.
Ronald Reagan has always been a very loyal individual - loyal to his
friends. Marcos is/was a good friend of Reagan's. While I strongly
believe that his taste in friends is terrible (let's not forget
Rev. Falwell, for one), I would not call him a "pathological" liar.

He was forced to betray a personal friend. He's pissed (He's also
stupid, and a lousy politician in this case). But he is not a
pathological liar - merely :-) an intermittant one.

As Barry Shein said - how come when Reagan says one thing and does
    another, I get angry at both?
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