Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!cramer From: cramer@sun.uucp (Sam Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: The "Patria" incident Message-ID: <3350@sun.uucp> Date: Tue, 11-Mar-86 22:35:54 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3350 Posted: Tue Mar 11 22:35:54 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 06:20:40 EST References: <93@ubc-vision.UUCP> <1372@mtuxo.UUCP> <159@dione.rice.EDU> Reply-To: cramer@sun.UUCP (Sam Cramer) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 37 In article <159@dione.rice.EDU> salex@dione.UUCP (Scott Alexander) writes: > However, I think the Liberty incident shows that the Israelis are >willing to attack without due provocation. In this episode (during LBJs >term---1968 perhaps), the Israelis sank the US intelligence ship Liberty in >international waters during the Six Day War. This action occurred after >watching it for several hours. Afterwards, the Israelis claimed to have >mistaken it for an Egyptian ship of approximately half the length of the >Liberty. The Liberty was sunk in 1967, during the Six Day war, which took place during June of that year. Considering that a war was underway, and that the ship (according to accounts) could have been confused with an Egyptian Navy vessel, how can one reasonably conclude that "the Israelis are willing to attack without due provocation"? Would it be fair to say that the US attacks mental hospitals as a matter of policy because such an incident took place during the invasion of Grenada? Of course not. What would Israel have had to gain by knowingly attacking a ship belonging to it's most important ally? [Aside: although this is rhetorical question, I imagine that we'll soon see lots of amusing answers from the anti-Israel fanatics so active in net.politics - probably backed up with bogus quotations from obscure far-left or pro-PLO sources; "Ink Links", indeed!] By the way, Israel apologized and paid reparations to family members of those killed. It's one thing to say that Israel made a regretable mistake during war-time (recall that this war was one in which Israel's enemies made no secret of their desire to exterminate the State of Israel and it's inhabitants), and quite another to say that it is willing to "attack without due provocation". -- Sam Cramer uucp: {cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!cramer arpanet: cramer@sun.arpa