Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Organized Objectivism Message-ID: <1037@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Mar-86 13:37:59 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.1037 Posted: Wed Mar 12 13:37:59 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 06:22:02 EST References: <2153@watdcsu.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 32 > > I find the phenomenon of organized Objectivism rather amusing... > imagine people forming clubs and gathering to think independently > together... > -- > David Canzi This comment demonstrates the absurd individualism of Objectivism. There is not a philosophy ever invented which did not involve a circle of individuals in interactive *discussion* and *debate*. If not through immediate personal conversation then through the medium of books, articles or letters. Indeed thought itself is primarily conducted through language or symbolic manipulations which are culturally and socially produced and transmitted. Try to extract the philosophy from a person who has been raised with virtually no human contact. You won't get very far. This is why philosophies inevitably reflect the social and cultural milieu of their time and it also explains the well-documented fact in the history of science that some 33% or more of scientific discoveries are dual discoveries. I.e. two scientists made the same discovery independently without knowing of the other's discovery. Why? Because the time and conditions in science as an organized social entity were ready for it. Let us promote discussion and dialogue- not solipsism! tim sevener whuxn!orb