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Subject: Re: Reagan a pathological liar:re to Cramer
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Date: Thu, 13-Mar-86 12:37:29 EST
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Tim and Clayton Cramer are going at it.  I've removed most of the
posting, my reponse is a (sort of) defense of Tim Sevener.

>> Clayton Cramer tried to defend Reagan's gross disregard for the truth
>> by simply lumping him with all politicians.  Certainly one must

>Bullshit, Tim.  Read what I wrote.  I wasn't defending Reagan's disregard
>for the truth -- I was pointing out that he's a politician, and that some
>of your assertions of his dishonesty were incorrect.

	... removed Clayton's response to Tim ...

>> Sad to say I can only conclude the man is a pathological liar.
>> 
>>      tim sevener  whuxn!orb


>It is typical of slimy politicians of all sorts, and people in
>general, that they claim memory loss about embarassing statements.
>This doesn't make him a pathological liar -- just a typical dishonest
>person.

>Tim: Have you thought about therapy to resolve why your hatred for
>Reagan makes you treat him so differently from other people of
>comparable honesty and integrity?

Actually, I don't think that Tim needs therapy.  But it is interesting
to note the strong emotional content of his postings.  It is pretty
clear that Tim hates good old Ronnie, on a personal level.  This 
is a characteristic of propaganda, the inducement of hatred against
a particular person. Contrarywise, this principle explains the 'cult
of personality' most totalitarian regimes engage in.  It's not the
leader who matters, but if you HATE THE LEADER'S GUTS, how can you
think about the country rationally?  Tim Sevener please respond.
My postings rarely make personal comments about individual leaders.
Except in rare cases, I consider it propagandistic.  I guess you could 
say that Tim is the victim of propaganda, left-wing in this case.  
That's why I decided to post some articles.  Maybe Tim can be 'cured' ( :-) ).
Maybe not, but at least we'll both have some fun discussing it all. 


Guy