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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Reagan a pathological liar:re to Cramer
Message-ID: <982@cybvax0.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 12-Mar-86 11:07:56 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 12 11:07:56 1986
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In article <588@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> You just don't have the hatred for the others that you have for Reagan.
> (Does he remind you of your father?)
> ...
> Tim: Have you thought about therapy...

Clayton, do you think you can outgrow the third grade taunts?
You owe us all an apology for this sort of assinine tactic.

> It is typical of slimy politicians of all sorts, and people in
> general, that they claim memory loss about embarassing statements.
> This doesn't make [Reagan] a pathological liar -- just a typical
> dishonest person.

All you've done here is claimed that both pathological liars and
normal people share these characteristics.  You haven't ruled out that
Reagan is a pathological liar; indeed you haven't differentiated between
pathological liars and normal people in any way.  By this same sort of
argument you'd probably refuse to recognize any diagnosis of mental disease
which you didn't like.

Personally, I don't think Reagan is a pathological liar: instead I think
he is a skilled, manipulative, controlled liar.  I don't like either type
in the Oval office.  I think that Reagan is worse than any other president
in my lifetime (excepting perhaps Nixon.)

For well-documented lies by Reagan, see "Reagan's Reign of Error", a
paperback published before the '84 elections.

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"To save the world requires faith and courage: faith in reason, and courage
to proclaim what reason shows to be true."  Bertrand Russell in "The Prospects
of Industrial Civilization".
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