Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site decwrl.DEC.COM Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-bartok!mahoney From: mahoney@bartok.DEC Newsgroups: net.politics,net.legal Subject: Making War Message-ID: <1753@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Tue, 18-Mar-86 12:47:04 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1753 Posted: Tue Mar 18 12:47:04 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Mar-86 18:08:58 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 29 Xref: lsuc net.politics:3779 net.legal:1949 I am sending this to both news groups because I think it has significance in both. I ask that people continue to cross-post on this particular subject, but because of the cross postings to stick to the topic and not digress. I don't want to hear Reagan bashing or any other crap like that. If you do digress make appropriate changes to the heading thank you very much. I was talking with my father yesterday and he told me and interesting fact. (my father is a history teacher and he didn't realize this until recently) This fact is that the Constitutional Convention specifically took out the words "make war" and changed them to "declare war" for powers of congress. While giving the right to the President as Commander and Cheif the right to move forces around as he saw fit. Does this give the right to the president to make war? Some constitutional lawyers say yes. (They had a show on much like Meet the Press) One of the people who says yes is Ed Muskie. He said that is why they did not take Johnson to court over Vietnam. He and others like him felt that they would lose. That by specifically changing the words as they did that they granted the power to make war to the president. My personal belief is that they wanted to take that right away from the government altogether. I think this could be an interesting what could they have meant. So what do you people think? Does this give to much power to the President? I say yes that the making of war is something to be avoided at all costs. Brian Mahoney