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From: thill@ssc-bee.UUCP (Tom Hill)
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Subject: Re: That dirty 'ol CIA
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Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 15:46:47 EST
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>> Ah yes, the CIA, the great shapeless monster of every liberal's dreams.
>> Spying is an international pastime.  Surely, I am disgusted when I read
>> about those who have been caught spying for a foreign power and applaud
>> our own people when we learn important information.  So what?  It is a lot
>> like cheering for your home team.Don't read more into it than is really there.
>> Certainly there have been abuses but to dismantle such an important
>> organization simply because of this is absurd.

Prepare for knee-jerk reaction...

> 
>    I get really tired of this form of nationalistic bullshit.
> 
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> 
>    Comparing nationalism to "rooting for the home team" is ludicrous.  With
> sports, you choose to support some team for whatever personal reasons suit
> you.  You have *CHOSEN* to be a supporter of that team.

If you had been reading this topic (where have I heard that before :-)
you would have realized that I was responding to the comments that 

	1. The CIA should be done away with

	2. that because we try to get people from other countries to
	   tell secrets we should not complain when someone from our
	   country gives away our secrets.

> 
>    Face it, those who support the interference by the U.S. in the internal
> affairs of other nations, against the wishes of that nation, are racists,
> or minimally elitists.  They feel that due to the accident of their having
> been born American, they have the right to impose upon others what they
> would *NEVER* tolerate being imposed upoin themselves.  Given that in almost
> every case, America is interfering with non-white nations and peoples, this
> translates very neatly into racism.
> 

Settle down Mr. Keller and you might be able to discuss the question at
hand.  Name calling and type casting does not become you.  No one here on
the net has advocated CIA intervention.  I merely stated that doing away
with the CIA because of past grievences and ignoring all the needed information
gathering that they do, is dumb.  Make sure they do not do it again
but don't get rid of them.  Did Miami fire all their Officers when several
were found to be involved in a drug ring?

If you want to call that racism ect, fine.  Read with an open mind.  Just
because I have disagreed with you in the past doesn't mean that I will
disagree with you now or in the future.
> 
> tom keller

Just for the record, I am not now nor have I ever been a racist.

Tom Hill