Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site umich.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!mb2c!umich!torek From: torek@umich.UUCP (Paul V. Torek ) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Non-liberalism (Hegel and the state) Message-ID: <521@umich.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Mar-86 20:46:29 EST Article-I.D.: umich.521 Posted: Mon Mar 17 20:46:29 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Mar-86 20:16:29 EST References: <1400@mtuxo.UUCP> <372@gargoyle.UUCP> Reply-To: torek@umich.UUCP (Paul V. Torek ) Organization: University of Michigan, EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 16 Summary: I'm not familiar with much of Hegel's writings, but Charles Taylor's commentary is wrong on at least one count (here I am criticizing, not his exegesis of Hegel, but his apparent endorsement of the view he is elaborating). Taylor contrasts the individual considered "as an organism" vs. "as a human", but why are these mutually exclusive viewpoints (as seems to be implied)? (Hint: They aren't -- a human is a certain distinctive *sort* of organism.) Sure our communal life is important, but how does "liberalism" fail to acknowledge this? F'rinstance: Taylor lists utilitarianism among the "modern liberal" viewpoints; where does he get off accusing it of ignoring or disparaging communal life? I keep hearing this axe-grinding against "individualism", but just what is it and why is it objectionable? Feel free to give the answers you think Hegel, Taylor, and/or Alisdair MacIntyre (to throw in another contender with whom I'm more familiar) would give, or, of course, your own. --Paul Torek torek@umich