Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cca.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!cca!g-rh From: g-rh@cca.UUCP (Richard Harter) Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: Re: How did they do in the test Message-ID: <6596@cca.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Mar-86 01:58:08 EST Article-I.D.: cca.6596 Posted: Sat Mar 8 01:58:08 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 20:51:53 EST References: <> <6490@cca.UUCP> <> Reply-To: g-rh@cca.UUCP (Richard Harter) Organization: Computer Corp. of America, Cambridge Lines: 24 Summary: In article <> js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) writes: >> ] My old friend, Professor Flootersnoot at Arkham University, has three >> ] prize students in his Creative Ontology class, Jones, Smith, and Wilson. >> ] Recently he sent me a small puzzle about how they placed in a recent >> ] exam. The puzzle consisted of three statements: >> ] >> ] (1) No other employee of the Adelphi bookstore placed ahead of >> ] Wilson. > > Note that this statement does *not* imply that more than one of >Flootersnoot's prize students work for the Adelphi bookstore, as asserted >by whoever posted the 'solution' to this problem. Nice try, but you miss the point. The full statement of the puzzle states that all three conditions are necessary for the solution of the puzzle. If Wilson is the only one working at the Adelphi bookstore, then this statement does not contribute any information to the solution, i.e. the statement is irrelevant. The elegance of the puzzle resides precisely in the fact that the requirement that the unknown data be such that all of the statements are relevant and necessary makes it possible to deduce enough restrictions on the data to make it possible to solve the puzzle. [Now there is a convoluted sentence.] Richard Harter, SMDS Inc.