Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!hplabs!sdcrdcf!darrelj From: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: Re: Flashes and telephoto lenses Message-ID: <2683@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Mar-86 11:06:02 EST Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.2683 Posted: Sat Mar 15 11:06:02 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Mar-86 04:04:51 EST References: <1587@watmath.UUCP> <2579@genat.UUCP> Reply-To: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Distribution: net Organization: System Development Corporation R&D, Santa Monica Lines: 32 >>I have also heard that f4.5 is f4.5 no matter which lens you use. In an ideal world, this might be true, but in actual practice, there is enormous variation. 15-20 years ago, Nikor lenses were very careful to have the marked F-stops very close across the lens line because through the lens metering was not yet common. Needed if you wanted your handheld (or Photomic-F) meter readings to come out consistent across a collection of lenses. Thus my ancient Nikor 500/5 mirror lens is 122 mm in diamater (enough to call 4.2 in todays market!) to compensate for the large hole in the middle of the lens. The worst lens I have in this regard is an off-brand cheapo 85-210/3.8 zoom which meters a full stop slower than my Nikor 200/4 (i.e. it's a full 1.3 stops slower than "marked"). A combination of lots of reflection loss from the high number of elements, probably limited use of coating (claims "Tri-Coat" but maybe thats in the whole lens?), and marketing bias in roundoff (engineer says it's formulated at 3.85000, sales says round "down"). This is also noticable in many mirror lenses now (500/8s taking 72mm filters, indeed! [I originally thought the problem with the cheapo zoom was poor sharpness because the viewfinder image looked so awful, till I noticed it was metering a stop slower; the 200/4 Nikor looked the same stopped down to 5.6] -- Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD System Development Corp. 2525 Colorado Ave Santa Monica, CA 90406 (213)820-4111 x5449 ...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,orstcs,sdcsvax,ucla-cs,akgua} !sdcrdcf!darrelj VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPA