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From: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu (Tom Tedrick)
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Subject: Re: In the Name of God
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Date: Sun, 9-Mar-86 06:23:59 EST
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In article <88@cad.UUCP> hijab@cad.UUCP (Raif Hijab) writes:
>In article <707@mtuxn.UUCP>, gdf@mtuxn.UUCP (G.FERRAIOLO) writes:
>> I see, even if people espouse policies that are very  helpful to the
>> Communists, pointing out that they are helpful to the Communists is
>> a great moral wrong.  Where were these people when the Tibetan, Cambodians,
>> Ukranians, etc., etc., etc., were being slaughtered?  Frankly,
>> it doesn't matter to me how self-righteous people are, what kind of
>> religious positions they hold, or how hypocritical their rhetoric is.
>> 
>> "IN THE NAME OF GOD", what vast hypocrisy.  Will it never end?
>> 
>> Guy
>
>You conveniently refer to Tibet, Cambodia and the Ukraine. At least 
>in Tibet and Cambodia, I am convinced that atrocities, killings and
>mass movement of populations took place. (I know nothing about the
>Ukraine,

The death toll in the Ukraine was on the order of tens of millions,
I believe.

>but I also know that the U.S. shares the guilt for what
>happened to Cambodia. Remember Kissinger and his saturation bombing?)
>
>However, you also conveniently forget El Salvador, Chile, South Africa 
>and South Korea, to name a few of the U.S.'s staunch allies with rather
>colorful resumes. They are staunch anti-communists, good capitalists
>and the very model of the kind of democracy some in the U.S. would
>like to export to the world, the model Reagan is bent on reintroducing
>into Nicaragua.

I was very sad to read this article. I was beginning to think Raif
was someone I could trust to give a fair account of things from a
viewpoint I am not familar with.

But now he seems to be equating oppressive, brutal, frequently
muderous tyrannies with regimes engaging in full scale genocide
as a matter of state policy.