Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site decwrl.DEC.COM Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-squirt!arndt From: arndt@squirt.DEC Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish Subject: Response to Eliyahu Teitz - Chicken Sacrifices Message-ID: <1528@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 20:08:47 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1528 Posted: Wed Mar 5 20:08:47 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 15:22:54 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 50 Xref: lsuc net.religion:747 net.religion.jewish:1885 You ask where I got my information about orthodox jews making a symbolic blood sacrifice with a chicken - because both the Talmud and the Torah say 'without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin' and about their identifying the priestly line through family records. I spoke to a Jew who claims to have seen the papers being used to establish the Levitical line from the family records. He also told me of the sacrifices. Afterward, the chicken is given to charity. So that's where I got it. He said it was in Brooklyn. And that young men have been sent to Israel to visit the site (you know where) of the future temple. Does anyone have any close friends in the Jewish Orthodox community in Brooklyn? (such a question?) I'd like to hear about it some more myself. By the way, I am grateful for your response to my posting on the Torah and Tradition. I'm reading it carefully and doing some library work as I get the time. I don't entirely agree - so I hope to learn from you, since you seem to have a handle on the topic, and discuss in a friendly atmosphere. (Picture me bobbing back and forth in front of my terminal.) Satan, I'd like to sit in on a Yeshiva course! You stole my Rabbi story! Only mine went: after G-d (out of respect to your sensibilities) stated who was right there was a hushed silence and the head rabbi said, "We'll vote on it!" By the by, from time to time there have been comments on the nets about my sign off 'keep chargin''. I use it as a way to keep score on the men and the yuppie people. The 'men' interprete it as it is meant - in a military context. The 'yuppies', as usual, always think of their charge cards! Sorry. Very few things are sacred to me. You, if you have been following the Rosen Rubber Chicken Slap Out, will have noticed (some few missed it I know, but we know they could find no good thing in anything I did) that I often lampoon myself - and recently even held up the dear mother of my children to the rude yuks of the common public school mob who seem to be in the majority here on the nets. I am not a reader of Net.rel.jewish. I do not want to cause an uproar in net.religion.jewish. I realize that I do have a sometimes bumptious manner of expression. (We all have our cross to bear.) Agh! I think I did it again! I never know how to approach jews and white people. Without being patronizing, I mean. Should I comment on . . . or just let it go. Sigh. Anyway, I'm not trying to 'prove' anything, just understand why you believe what you do using the same scriptures I do. Watermellon anyone? Keep chargin' Ken Arndt