Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site decwrl.DEC.COM Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-elwood!simon From: simon@elwood.DEC (Product Safety 237-3521) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Historical Persecution of Jews Message-ID: <1679@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 10:14:10 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1679 Posted: Fri Mar 14 10:14:10 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 23:34:46 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 63 >Because of their social isolation, Jews living in foreign countries were >viewed with curiosity by the natives. This curiosity was easily >turned to contempt and hatred in times of stress by ambitious leaders. > >What I'm trying to assert is that Jews have not been persecuted historically >for their religion per se, but because of their social customs that are >a result of their religious beliefs. It was easy to learn to hate those >"funny people" in the community that kept to themselves all the time. > > >Terry Morse (408)743-1487 >{ hplabs!cae780 } | { ihnp4!sun!sunncal } !leadsv!morse Terry, I tend to agree with you here, at least if we are talking about modern times. Though I can base this only on my experience in the USSR. The population of the Soviet Union is basically atheist. There are very few religious people in general. But since I do not know much about the Muslims in the Asian part of the country, which is large, I am taking only the Christians and Jews. There no Jewish traditions left. Very few synagogues. For example, in Moscow, where a few hundred thousands of Jews live, there is only one synagogue. But... Anti-Semitism is very strong. It exists on two levels. First is from people. Second is from the government. The people in Russia didn't like the Jews for centuries. Of course in the old time the cause for hate was religious. Now it is both tradition and envy. Before the revolution the only way for the Jews to break through into the society was to go to college, get education and then get the permission from the police to settle in a city. But the college admission for the Jews was limited to 5%. Right after the revolution in 1917 the Jews got the civil rights that were unheard of for them before. They used them. They went to colleges, became professionals, served in the government (e.g. Trotsky). The envy of their achievements was one of the reasons of the persecutions later. Now this anti-Semitism is heated up by the government. Everybody in the USSR has an internal passport. On the first page it states your name and ethnic origin. The passport is required to get a job, to be admitted to a college, to get married, to get a permission for an apartment. This allows the government to control activities of the Jews. By printing anti-Zionist articles in newspapers, showing anti-Zionist movies on TV and describing in the media Jewish activists as Zionists, the government created an image that Jewish equals to Zionist equals to Fascist. Now I want to stress a few facts again. The majority of Soviet Jews do not have their Jewish traditions any more. They do not speak Hebrew. Those who are younger then 40 do not speak Yiddish either. Their native language is mostly Russian or the language of the place where they live (Ukrainian, Moldavian, etc.). They cannot read Jewish literature (which is practically not published). All their Jewishness is in the passports only. (There is a bitter joke among Russian Jews that even if you manage to change you passport that it says that you are Russian, still they will beat you in the face, not in the passport). Yet as you all well know, the Soviet Union is one of the most anti-Semitic countries. Leo B. Simon (UUCP) {decvax, ucbvax, allegra}!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-elwood!simon (ARPA) simon%elwood.DEC@decwrl.ARPA