Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!mhuxm!abeles From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (J. Abeles (Bellcore, Murray Hill, NJ)) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Jewish Messiah versus Christian Messiah Message-ID: <534@mhuxm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Mar-86 08:48:36 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxm.534 Posted: Wed Mar 19 08:48:36 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Mar-86 18:13:53 EST References: <1204@ihlpa.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 24 Xref: lsuc net.religion.christian:389 net.religion.jewish:1912 >> If you really want to return home to the true faith, then do read the >> Jewish Scriptures, especially those prophets like Isaiah who promise >> the coming of the Messiah who would also be a "light to the Gentiles". >> Yes, the Messiah has come, He is Jesus, and all who accept Him have eternal >> life and are following a genuine faith based on ALL the Scriptures. >> David E. Lindsay > > the Jewish Messiah is to be judged by his actions and not by who he is. > Jesus did not provide for national redemption to Jews. National redemption > was the action the Jews were looking for very badly at the time of Christ; > this he did not deliver. What Jews wanted in the first century A.D. is > a messiah that would free them from Roman oppression. A task Jesus did not > accomplish. Since Jesus did not redeem the Jews from the Romans, he was > not qualified as a Jewish Messiah then (and now). [Y. Hoshen] Furthermore: In case anyone is interested, Lindsay's remarks regarding prophesies of Isaiah are also complete bunk. Christian theology has depended on demonstrably biased translations and interpretations of a number of the Prophets to claim that, e.g., it was prophesized that a savior would be born to a virgin. These are the subject of technical and ancient disagreements between the Christians and the Jews. Such things are never addressed in attempts to improve relationships between the two religions for obvious reasons. --J. Abeles