Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!rdh From: rdh@sun.uucp (Robert Hartman) Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Re: Beach harassment Message-ID: <3325@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 01:01:52 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3325 Posted: Wed Mar 5 01:01:52 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 07:33:47 EST References: <519@hoptoad.uucp> <230@globetek.UUCP> <580@hoptoad.uucp> Reply-To: rdh@sun.UUCP (Robert Hartman) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 25 Xref: linus net.women:9128 net.singles:9632 > >But that *is* the question. That is why I asked for an objective >standard for harrassment -- not for ``feeling harrassed'' -- but for >actually harrassing people. >-- >Laura Creighton How about: person A did something in such a way that it was reasonable to conclude (to me and perhaps to others as well) that they intended me harm, inconvenience, or upset. If I were on a beach and some burly macho sort of woman towered over me in an intimidating fashion because I'd rather read than stroke her ego, I'd be rather perturbed. I'd feel that maybe she was trying to make me 'regret' my poor taste. I'd merely regret that I forgot to bring along my pet grizzly. If more of a milquetoast sort clumisly interrupted me twice, and then a third time to say she was sorry, I'd wish her lots of luck in life. If an average sort, made a sort-of-average single-pass, I'd parse the input, return 0 on stderr, and keep reading my book. If there were 15 leaflet passers, all from the same group, who were more interested in detaining me (in order get my money or attention) than in freely speaking, I would begin to get rather combative after the 3rd one. -bob.