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Subject: Re: Bigot or an anti-Christian?
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Date: Fri, 7-Mar-86 03:16:23 EST
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Reply-To: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev (the student incarnation))
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Summary: But a religion that justifies injustices?

In article <15859@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
>> 	Sadly it's true - it seems like there are always Christians, Jews,
>> Muslims and other "people of God" fighting each other about who is
>> really right about Him. 
> You forgot to include atheists and agnostics who also have been killing each 
>other since forever.  A good example of this is the old Roman empire.  They
>killed for a thousand years, not for God or gods, but rather what mankind 
>usually kills for; self serving greed, power, pride and honor.  Russia, which
>is killing in Afghanistan right now as we talk, is a proclaimed atheist country

Soviets (NOT Russians!) are killing in the name of IDEOLOGY (at leas that's the
claim). That's what passes for religion back in the Old Country.

>Mankind is a killer because of his very nature, not because of his God or gods.
>He only uses God as his scapegoat so as not to be confronted with the truth
>about his real nature. 

In case of Islam, Jewdaism and X-tianity it's not a "scapegoat" but 
"justification".

X-tians use Satan as a scapegoat, as in "Satan made me do it!"
Soviets blame everything on the "necessity to combat the American and Zionist
imperialism", U.S. blames everything on having to defend from "commies", etc.

>But
>the next time a person commits a violent act in the name of God and looks in
>the mirror, he well not see God, but just himself.

Witch burnings, American Indian slaughterings, Crussades - those were not quite
PERSONAL acts. The were induced by the culture and allowed (and justified)
by the religion. People felt no guilt or remorse. They felt righteous and
holy... THAT'S WHY I am anti X-tian.

You might say "But what about other religions that justified violence and
murder?" Well, I dislike RELIGIONS IN GENERAL. But I can't remember the last
time an Azteck knowcked on my door at 8 am on Saturday to "talk about the
salvation his God offers" or group of Egyptian cultist were trying to shove 
"Jews for Set" or "Ra saves" button in my hands.... 

It's like the net, you know, The more you post the more you get flamed! :-)
							Oleg Kiselev
							ucla-cs!cs111olg