Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihuxn!gadfly From: gadfly@ihuxn.UUCP (Gadfly) Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Re: Prejudice in graduate school Message-ID: <1374@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 09:59:22 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxn.1374 Posted: Fri Mar 14 09:59:22 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 21:43:58 EST References: <1220@oddjob.UUCP> <145@rtech.UUCP> <1228@oddjob.UUCP> <2743@reed.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.women:9730 net.singles:10965 -- [Bill Tanenbaum re sexism at the U] > I spent 15 years as a physicist (grad student, post-doc, and faculty) at > three different institutions and I have NEVER heard any physicist, male > or female, make any of the comments Adrian describes or anything > remotely similar. Anyone who did so would have been (correctly) > censured. I'm sure there are some Neanderthals out there, but "the > norm". Come on. How about some names and places. I don't believe you. It's very common for members of the dominant culture to be totally unaware of repressive conditions for women and minorities. I hear "There's no discrimination here" and "I treat everyone as equals" all the time in the computer biz, and the white males who say so are being entirely truthful. They are simply not sensitive to cultural and interpersonal differences, and people who've been spit on often enough learn to hide their pain. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 14 Mar 86 [24 Ventose An CXCIV] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7753 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***