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From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Prejudice in graduate school
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Date: Fri, 21-Mar-86 02:16:41 EST
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> > [Bill Tanenbaum re sexism at the U]
> > I spent 15 years as a physicist (grad student, post-doc, and faculty) at
> > three different institutions and I have NEVER heard any physicist, male
> > or female, make any of the comments Adrian describes or anything
> > remotely similar.  Anyone who did so would have been (correctly)
> > censured.  I'm sure there are some Neanderthals out there, but "the
> > norm".  Come on.  How about some names and places.  I don't believe you.
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> [Ken Perlow] 
> It's very common for members of the dominant culture to be totally
> unaware of repressive conditions for women and minorities.  I hear
> "There's no discrimination here" and "I treat everyone as equals"
> all the time in the computer biz, and the white males who say so
> are being entirely truthful.  They are simply not sensitive to
> cultural and interpersonal differences, and people who've been
> spit on often enough learn to hide their pain.
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Very well, Ken, there may very well be cultural and interpersonal
differences, but Adrian was referring to blunt and unambiguous
sexist statements.  That's not the same thing.
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Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan