Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site jplgodo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!uscvax!oberon!smeagol!jplgodo!ted From: ted@jplgodo.UUCP (Ted Sweetser x4989 156/224) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Scramjets (specific impulse) Message-ID: <739@jplgodo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 21:14:03 EST Article-I.D.: jplgodo.739 Posted: Wed Mar 5 21:14:03 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 00:26:13 EST References: <344@vger.UUCP> <617@smeagol.UUCP> <34@petrus.UUCP> <623@smeagol.UUCP> Organization: Jet Propulsion Labs, Pasadena, CA Lines: 24 Summary: specific impulse definition In article <623@smeagol.UUCP>, kwan@smeagol.UUCP (Richard Kwan) writes: > And in <34@petrus.UUCP>, Phil Karn responded: > > Specific impulse is often erroneously specified in "seconds"; the correct > > units should be "meters/sec", i.e., velocity. > I don't know what got into me. You are correct. "Seconds" is the > accepted units in the English system. Wait a minute, I don't think Mr. Karn *is* right. The best definition of specific impulse (Isp) is "thrust / (weight of propellent mixture used per unit time)". With this definition the units for Isp are seconds in both the metric and English systems and no conversion factor is needed for Isp between the two systems. Furthermore, this definition is needed to make the following form of the rocket equation: mass ratio = exp(-(delta-V)/(g*Isp)) work in any consistent system of units; if you use a "meter/second" Isp then you have to use a different form of the rocket equation in the metric system. A short history of the term can be found in "Comment on 'Definition of Specific Impulse'", _J._Spacecraft_, vol.12(1975), no.9, p.576, by Alfred Africano, one of the originators of the concept. Unfortunately, textbook writers have been consistently inconsistent on Isp. Ted Sweetser (...smeagol!jplgodo!ted)