Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!xx.lcs.mit.edu!MCGRATH%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU From: MCGRATH%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU ("Jim McGrath") Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Safety Message-ID: <12189727365.61.MCGRATH@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 21:52:18 EST Article-I.D.: OZ.12189727365.61.MCGRATH Posted: Mon Mar 10 21:52:18 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 04:45:36 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mcgrath%mit-oz@mit-mc.arpa Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 29 From: hplabs!sdcrdcf!oberon!smeagol!earle@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Greg Earle) Fishermen in Japan were slaughtering dolphins because they *thought* they were the cause of their low fishing yields! Actually, I was under the impression that the most efficient net designs had the side effect of catching dolphins as well as the target fish (such as tuna). Thus the problem was an economic and technological, not an educational, one. My idea of the main point in going into space is that an unintended offshoot will be to get all the *fucking people* off of the earth, so maybe the Planet and the animals (who beat us here by a LONG time) will have a slim chance of repairing all the damage that humans have caused to the ecosystem. While I agree with your general point about population pressures, I have to disagree with your prejudice against the human race. Humans are part of the ecosystem, which means that they cannot "damage" it any more than other species. They can harm other species, sometimes ultimately harming themselves, but species competition is the way of life. Humans can be stupid when they are destructive, but I don't feel they are somehow fundamentally immoral when competing with other species. Jim -------