Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!su-ai.arpa!REM%IMSSS From: REM%IMSSS@SU-AI.ARPA (Robert Elton Maas) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: accepting one's share of risk, doing one's share to avoid overpopulation Message-ID: <8603101133.AA02049@s1-b.arpa> Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 06:33:22 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8603101133.AA02049 Posted: Mon Mar 10 06:33:22 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Mar-86 05:27:39 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 40 TK> Date: 7 Mar 86 12:19:22 GMT TK> From: hplabs!qantel!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Tom Keller) TK> Subject: Re: absolutely vs. relatively safe level TK> I would like to suggest to you that *YOU* volunteer to be TK> amongst the first to contribute your death the "slowing of the TK> population explosion". If you are unwilling to do so, then **HOW DARE TK> YOU** suggest that it is in any way acceptable to visit this fate on TK> some unknowing and probably unwilling soul? I am already in the lottery for death by lung cancer caused by other people smoking near me (but I protest that as unfair to me), by cancer and other diseases caused by fumes from automobiles (which I accept but don't want to get any worse and would like to ameliorate), by cancer etc. caused by burning coal and fuel oil (which I want to greatly reduce by using nuclear energy instead), by explosion when gasoline trucks get in accidents if I happen to be near, by earthquake and other natural disasters, by poisoning from overturned trucks containing toxic chemicals (which I want to see better regulated to reduce chance of accident), etc. etc. -- Note I didn't say I wanted to name some person out there to die, I was referring to the lottery of risk from accidents and biosphere contamination. It is not fair for you to ask me to volunteer to "win" the death lottery when I wasn't asking anyone else to do that; it is enough that I play the lottery the same as anyone else. -- Regarding overpopulation, I am already making the sacrifice; long ago I decided to have only one or two children, maybe three but probably not, instead of the 5 children our neighbors in Sylmar had (they're catholic by the way), or the 8 that are advocated by a certain TV program, or the 20-some-odd that some couple in the appalachians had. Now if everyone else in the world would make the same sacrifice I'm making we'd have a lot more time to work on the problem of resources running out. TK> This is simply another case of "I don't care what the risks and TK> costs of my progress are, so long as *I* don't have to bear them" TK> syndrome...becoming more and more popular of late. Nope, I'm bearing down to do my part to alleviate population explosion on Earth, and if everyone else does likewise this planet will continue to be tolerable. How about you, how many children do you have already and how many do you plan to have?