Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Clumping doesn't fix Olber's paradox Message-ID: <12331@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 11-Mar-86 05:20:04 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12331 Posted: Tue Mar 11 05:20:04 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Mar-86 07:44:16 EST References: <8603041333.AA12454@s1-b.arpa> <1189@mmintl.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 18 In article <1189@mmintl.UUCP> franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) writes: > >What is not obvious to me is whether the stars can have a finite density >in the universe as a whole if such clumping is present. One must add the >requirement that there be a finite upper bound on the density of stars >in any finite region, of course -- a condition which is unlikely to be >violated. If by finite you mean nonzero (a common misstatement by physicists), then I think it is clear that this is impossible. If the mean density of stars on arbitrarily large spheres is above a nonzero threshold for an infinite sequence of radii tending to infinity (which I think is the appropriate definition of "finite density in the universe as a whole"), then each of these spheres must block out a fixed fraction of the rays from the Earth, and so together they will block any given ray with probability one. -- David desJardins