Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!gsmith From: gsmith@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Gene Ward Smith) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Challenger II & Science Fiction Message-ID: <12365@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 00:58:05 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12365 Posted: Fri Mar 14 00:58:05 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 19:32:13 EST References: <8603092000.AA25082@s1-b.arpa> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: gsmith@brahms.UUCP (Gene Ward Smith) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 In article <8603092000.AA25082@s1-b.arpa> lcc.todd@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Todd Johnson) writes: > There's been a lot of trashing of science fiction on this net. I >don't like it. Arthur Clarke is a VIP at NASA. So is Robert A. Heinlein, >Larry Niven , Isaac Asimov and who knows else. Why? Because among other >things they explored the possible outcomes of numerous (including some >as yet unplanned) space missions. That's why Heinlein was required reading >for the Apollo astronauts. The majority of people who write science fiction >KNOW what they're talking about or have contact with people who are more than >willing to supply them with copious detail. For people on this net who >haven't even tried science fiction is suggest "RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA" by >Arthur C. Clarke. Speaking as one who has been reading sci-fi since starting on Lucky Starr at a very tender age, I have to say that the vast majority of sci-fi authors *do not* know what they are talking about. The four authors quoted are better than most (and Clarke sometimes even writes well) but Heinlein & Niven have plenty of BS, and most sci-fi authors much more. I *like* sci-fi a lot, but I refuse to fool myself into thinking that it is much good either as science or as literature. Sometimes the science is pretty good (Rama or Black Cloud) sometimes the literature is good but the science awful (C.S. Lewis). Often both are bad; sometimes the literary merit is less than nil but the science purports to be good, and isn't (R.L. Forward: read my review in net.sf-lovers/ net.math). ucbvax!brahms!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720 "There are no differences but differences of degree between degrees of difference and no difference"