Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!jeff From: jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) Newsgroups: net.sport.hockey Subject: Re: a trade for Vaive? (very long) Message-ID: <1816@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Mar-86 12:56:27 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.1816 Posted: Thu Mar 20 12:56:27 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Mar-86 19:15:24 EST References: <1812@dciem.UUCP> <591@watdragon.UUCP> Reply-To: jeff@dciem.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Distribution: net Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 45 Summary: > In article <1812@dciem.UUCP> jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) writes: > >I really think the Leafs should trade Vaive now. > > Well, it's too late now. > .... > >MY RECOMMENDATION: To Washington for Stevens or Boston for Crowder. > MY RECOMMENDATION: They won't be able to get enough for him now. Hold onto > him for a while and see who is frustrated in the playoffs. A July deal > sounds best. > > Carlo Sgro I've left out the body of my article about trade possibilities for Vaive and of Carlo's analysis of it, because I'm sure those of you who were patient enough to read the first two articles don't want to see them again. Basically I agree with pretty well everything Carlo said, except that he mentioned Al MacInnis as a possible trade with Calgary. I haven't seen MacInnis play enough to know whether that would be a good deal, but I don't think the Leafs would go for it because they would want a defenceman with more experience. I guess the relevance of my article was greatly lessened by the fact that it probably didn't make the rounds until after the trade deadline. The way things have gone since then, I'm glad the Leafs' management didn't see it in time either (of course, they probably already thought about everything I said anyway). Carlo's final analysis, that they probably couldn't get enough for him now, was probably right. But at the time I wrote the article, I really thought that they should trade him before this season's deadline. I thought he had lost the desire to play for Toronto, based on the captaincy incident, his not playing up to par despite having a centre who is a better playmaker than his old centre, all the suspicious looking little injuries he had earlier in the season, and him being quoted recently as saying a trade might not be too bad. I figured that if they didn't get rid of him, his bad attitude would rub off on his young, impressionable teammates who look to him for leadership, and it would ruin their chances of doing anything in this year's playoffs or maybe even have a longer lasting negative effect. However, Vaive's attitude and his play seem to have improved drastically since the trade deadline passed, so I think it's safe to say that I was wrong. Not only that, my prediction is that Minnesota will take first place and blow away Toronto in the first round of the playoffs anyway. Toronto would have a good chance against Chicago or St. Louis, but Minnesota has looked too good lately. -- Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsri!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff