Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rti-sel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!dashman From: dashman@rti-sel.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sport.hoops Subject: Re: MVP Message-ID: <707@rti-sel.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 09:46:39 EST Article-I.D.: rti-sel.707 Posted: Thu Mar 6 09:46:39 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Mar-86 21:09:47 EST References: <1501@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: dashman@rti-sel.UUCP (Eric Dashman) Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 41 Summary: I absolutely agree that Bird is head and shoulders above anyone else in terms of the MVP this year. It is arguable that every year since he joined the Celtics the same was true. I say this as a dyed-in-wool N.Y. Knick fan (and beleive me, I've done a lot of dying with them recently) who has no love for the men in green. The usual rap on his defense is myopic. It only attends to his lack of quick feet (Tiny Archibald he ain't), but how many passes does he slap away or intercept?.....and how many times have you seen him strip an unsuspecting opponent being guarded by another Celt?....and he is an astounding rebounder on the order of a DeBusschere or a Silas (not all guys who can't jump are white) from a previous era. A lot of players have been arrogant, but only a few have been consistently able to live up to it (Oscar, West, Kareem, Wilt, Russell come immediately to mind). Bird is clearly in this elite group of the very best we have ever seen. (Bill Walton might have gotten there had his feet taken him further, and Bernard King, Ralph Sampson and Magic Johnson still might get there). I agree with your general comments about Kareem's rebounding, but here again it is not a statistic that represents much about this man's dominance in his time. We're talking about arguably the best player ever....sure you'd like 15 boards a game, but there is so much to him that I'm willing to overlook his lower average, i.e. scoring, shot-blocking, intimidation, presence, leadership, crunch-time play. You did not include Magic in your group of MVPs. I will never forget the game he played at center as a rookie in the championship, when Kareem was hurt. I mean, a point guard at center.....He had the bad? fortune of coming to a team with a legend in the middle, and I think this has suppressed much of his capacity to dominate (it has done the same to James Worthy). He has the qualities that the other true greats have. I am not one of those who thinks the Lakers will fall apart when Kareem retires.....I think Magic and James will emerge from their shells. (Now if Ralph really does go free agent.... anyone notice how awesome he's been without having to play around Akeem..... Houston should have traded one or the other rather than force them to play together.) But I digress. Magic has extended Kareem's career, if only because the great one loves ending his NBA days with a truly great guard, just as he began it in Milwaukee (Oscar). And Magic is young....we're going to have the pleasure of his company for a long time to come. Maybe the Knicks will win the lottery again....Johnny Dawkins? Len Bias? Drool.