Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!talcott!panda!plw From: plw@panda.UUCP (Pete Williamson) Newsgroups: net.sport.hoops Subject: Re: MVP (best alltime) Message-ID: <1476@panda.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 15:19:53 EST Article-I.D.: panda.1476 Posted: Thu Mar 6 15:19:53 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Mar-86 08:21:55 EST References: <127@drutx.UUCP> <1339@pucc-i> Reply-To: plw@panda.UUCP (Pete Williamson) Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 45 >> player is a matter of opinion. But wasn't it Bill Russell who led his >> team (as a player) to 11 championships in 13 years? Wasn't it Wilt >> Chamberlain who scored 100 points in a single game and AVERAGED OVER >> 50 POINTS A GAME for an entire season? I agree that Kareem should >> be considered amongst the best but I don't think he was a bit better >> than those mentioned above. > Wilt and Russell were men amongst boys. Besides these two, there just >weren't very many good centers in the league ... > As far as Russell is concerned, I don't think he was on Wilt or Kareem's >level as an individual. > I think that, even weighing in the quality of competition factor, my >choice for greatest player of all time has got to be Wilt, by a nose. Clearly, we are all talking about the best three centers of all time. If you conducted a poll, these three would be in a class by themselves for NBA Centers. Russell is my favorite cuz he was GREEN. He did indeed bring home 11 out of 13 world championships. Note that from 1957 to 1966 the Celtics won the World Championship EVERY YEAR except 1958. In 1958, Bill Russell had a broken leg. When you think of defense and rebounding, you think of BILL RUSSELL. There is no question that Wilt was the greatest offensive player ever. Can you imagine scoring 100 points in a single game or averaging 50 points per game for a season! And he couldn't shoot foul shots to save his life!! But I still think Kareem is the very best. Mainly because the NBA has radically changed over the last 15 years. The players are much better. The schedules are much tougher. The seasons are much longer. Kareem has competed in THIS NBA and accomplished remarkable things. I honestly do not believe that Bill or Wilt would have been as good as they were had they played during Kareem's time. But then again, who knows. Again, I sure wished Kareem had played his career in Beantown, or at the very least, in the Atlantic Division. sigh. -- Pete Williamson "By hook or by crook, we will !!" ... #2