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From: dayoung@hplabsc.UUCP (Doug A. Young)
Newsgroups: net.startrek
Subject: re: Original Star Trek Episode
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Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 12:59:20 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar 10 12:59:20 1986
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> > I attended a talk by Gene Rodenberyy in Cleveland a few years ago, and 
> > he concluded by showing The Cage in its entirety. It was actually a bit
> > disappointing, because I dont believe anything (at least nothing 
> > consequential) was cut when they made "The Menagerie", so there was nothing
> > new. If you've seen The Menagerie, you've seen The Cage. Incidently the
> > film I saw was in black and white.
> 
> >    from:          dayoung@hplabs       Doug Young, HPLABS, Palo Alto
> 
> I also have attended one of GR's talks, and seen the B&W print of The Cage.
> I suppose it's the same one he shows most any time he gives a ST talk.  But
> if you didn't notice any "new" scenes, you missed out, assuming you saw the
> same thing I saw.  (Or maybe your judgement about what is "consequential"
> is different from mine.)  The scene that stands out in my mind is a scene
> on the Enterprise bridge after the attempt to beam down to the planet, when
> the women were transported and the men were left behind.  A very excited
> (emotional!) Spock decides that it is too dangerous to remain in orbit around
> Talos IV, and orders the ship to leave.  I vaguely recall that they then lost
> power, and so were unable to leave orbit.  Then later, when the women beam
> back (after the final scene on the planet surface), someone says "Mr. Spock,
> systems are coming on."  (Or something close to that.)  In The Menagerie,
> that remark never quite seemed to make sense; this bridge scene puts it into
> its proper context.
> 
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Your memory is better than mine! It's been about 9 years since I saw the
Cage. I primarily remember thinking at the time that there was nothing
really new. You're undoubtably right about the few added scenes bringing
some things into context, unfortunately the same could be said about the 
complete versions of any of the weekly episodes in syndication after they
have been cut up. Does anyone know if the video tapes for sale are complete?

                                        Doug   dayoung@hplabs