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From: fcarmody@udenva.UUCP (Prince Caspian)
Newsgroups: net.suicide
Subject: Painless Suicide Methods: Are we discussing an illegal topic?
Message-ID: <1216@udenva.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 10-Mar-86 22:19:33 EST
Article-I.D.: udenva.1216
Posted: Mon Mar 10 22:19:33 1986
Date-Received: Thu, 13-Mar-86 07:59:12 EST
Reply-To: fcarmody@udenva.UUCP (Prince Caspian)
Organization: U of Denver
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This discussion of painless suicide methods has gotten unnerving to me.
I know there was a *big* discussion recently on "should it be legal?"

Two points:

1) While it remains an opinion, I and (I believe) many others hold suicide
as an act should be illegal and prevented at any cost.  For me, this 
is also a "case 2" opinion.... (I.E. opinion held by God=LAW... See my
disclaimer....)

2) This opinion is held by most if not all world governments.  Suicide
*is* illegal and should be discouraged.  It is also likely to remain 
illegal so far as I am aware.

3) Net policy forbids both requests and responses as to information
on *how to perform illegal acts*.  (I am not trying to net.admin
here.  See below.  For now, please take it that I am *stating a fact*
and leave it at that....)

4) The fact that the poster who started all this (sorry if I can't
remember your name at the moment) requested info on an illegal act
(painless suicide) without a smiley etc. represents some form 
of *intent*.   Intent to suicide should not be bypassed.
The "illegality" as far as the net policy violation represented by
his request should of course be ignored.  As most of the people
in this group are no doubt aware, *this was a cry for help*....

5) It is my considered opinion that some poster(s) have been 
positively *cruel* in actually offering this person suggestions
as to painless methods.  That seems tantamount to saying,
"If you really want to, go ahead....here's how!"
Whoever you are, you have not only spit in the face of net policy,
but also *at least* severely shocked a potential suicide.
*THINK: Someone may now be *dead* because of your "advice".
I don't really care whether you thought you were making a joke or 
not....*you can't afford to assume they weren't serious in 
the intent to end their life!*

I believe there is an apology due somewhere....
I also hope to God the original poster (or anyone else...)
didn't take that advice.... are you still there?
If not, may your "counselor" share the same cell in Sheol....


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- Prince Caspian of Narnia, AKA Francis X. Carmody
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The above opinions are my own, noone else in the known galaxy should be held responsable, except in the rare cases where they coincide with the opinions of Almighty God... In the above case, any disagreement with said opinions should be refferred directly to Him....
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