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From: bart@alice.UucP (Bart N. Locanthi)
Newsgroups: net.suicide
Subject: re: painless for whom?
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Date: Sun, 16-Mar-86 09:02:26 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar 16 09:02:26 1986
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>One point not mentioned so far: a suicide very often leaves
>behind friends and relatives who are appalled, shocked, deeply grieved,
>guilt-riddled and so forth. Is this good?

an excellent point.  perhaps those seeking painless suicide should consider
other people, paticularly their kin.  it seems to me that most of the painless
methods discussed so far are also easily detectable as suicide.  the insurance
not paying off only adds insult to injury.

>...that the Japanese
>are wonderful for romanticizing suicide like we Americans do violence
>(and also because of their willingness to slice up their friends)...

if i were despondent and saw no way out i think i would be insulted if my
friends said "there, there, things aren't so bad - you'll get out of federal
prison in 45 years, your wife won't hate you after you've gone in and she
takes up with someone else, ...".  a second for a japanese understands and
agrees that there is only one way out.

hmm, i wonder what japanese insurance companies think about suicide?  does
japan *have* insurance companies?  maybe they don't have enough lawyers to
support them?