Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!amdimage!prls!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!seismo!gatech!akgua!akgub!cylixd!elf From: elf@cylixd.UUCP (Leonard Bottleman) Newsgroups: net.suicide Subject: Re: Painless Suicide Methods: Are we discussing an illegal topic? Message-ID: <853@cylixd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Mar-86 11:47:27 EST Article-I.D.: cylixd.853 Posted: Mon Mar 17 11:47:27 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Mar-86 03:56:08 EST References: <1216@udenva.UUCP> Reply-To: elf@cylixd.UUCP (Leonard Bottleman) Organization: RCA Cylix Communications , Memphis, TN Lines: 41 In article <1216@udenva.UUCP> fcarmody@udenva.UUCP (Prince Caspian) writes: >4) The fact that the poster who started all this (sorry if I can't >remember your name at the moment) requested info on an illegal act >(painless suicide) without a smiley etc. represents some form >of *intent*. Intent to suicide should not be bypassed. >The "illegality" as far as the net policy violation represented by >his request should of course be ignored. As most of the people >in this group are no doubt aware, *this was a cry for help*.... First of all, I believe that it is a person's right to kill himself, and that suicide is a valid option to take to end a life of suffering. Second, the original poster said something like "out of morbid curiosity", which indicates that he was not interested in killing himself. Some people do prefer to use the English language to express what they mean rather than relying on keyboard graphics. >5) It is my considered opinion that some poster(s) have been >positively *cruel* in actually offering this person suggestions >as to painless methods. That seems tantamount to saying, >"If you really want to, go ahead....here's how!" >Whoever you are, you have not only spit in the face of net policy, >but also *at least* severely shocked a potential suicide. >*THINK: Someone may now be *dead* because of your "advice". >I don't really care whether you thought you were making a joke or >not....*you can't afford to assume they weren't serious in >the intent to end their life!* If I wanted to kill myself and asked for information on how to do so in a painless way, I would consider it cruel for someone to lecture me on how wrong he thought suicide to be. >I believe there is an apology due somewhere.... It seems that the only person offended is you, and if you find the discussion of suicide distasteful, you can always hit the 'n' key, or unsubscribe from the newsgroup. Leonard Bottleman ihnp4!akgua!cylixd!elf "Like, for this cat, the only reality is death."