Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mmm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mmm!mrgofor From: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Newsgroups: net.taxes Subject: Re: Responses on Schiff stuff Message-ID: <612@mmm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 15:07:47 EST Article-I.D.: mmm.612 Posted: Fri Mar 14 15:07:47 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Mar-86 10:02:15 EST References: <1177@decwrl.DEC.COM> <521@mmm.UUCP> <12205@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Organization: none Lines: 56 In article <12205@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) writes: >> Just out of curiosity, how do you propose that the government >>finance its operation? Seriously - I'm not baiting you, I would truly >>like for my thoughts to be provoked. I agree with you that there are >>aspects that are horrendous, but I haven't heard any reasonable >>alternatives yet. > >Well :-) here is my plan. All taxes should be "indirect", ie no >direct taxes that the general public will notice unless they >make an effort to look into what is going on. Since the masses >tend to sink into complacency when not provoked, this seems >to be the most politically expedient method. > A little cynical, perhaps, but I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment. >For example, heavy taxes on oil imports and other imported >goods, taxes on liquor, cigarettes levied on the producers, >etc. No direct income or sales taxes. Except that taxes on producers have the effect of raising the prices, which amounts to a sales tax. Sales taxes are uneven in their bite - poor people pay X% of their income on things that they have to buy, while rich people's % is lower, effectively taxing the rich on a smaller portion of their income. >That way, not only >are the masses not stirred up by having to pay taxes directly, >costs of collecting taxes should go down since there would be >fewer groups to collect from and they would be easier to >identify. Good point. >Also taxing imports is politically expedient since >it would have the support of local producers. Finally, legalization >and heavy taxation of narcotics, would be useful, transferring >wealth from organized crime to organized government, at the >same time reducing enforcement costs, reducing drug related >crime, and returning criminals to more productive activity. I agree 100% > >If all else fails, we can also print more money to finance >the government, borrow money, etc., and blame the resulting >inflation on the arabs :-) And the commies. -- --MKR Sometimes even the President of the United States must have to stand naked. - Dylan