Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!boren From: boren@randvax.UUCP (Pat Boren) Newsgroups: net.travel Subject: Re: Need Eurrail Info Message-ID: <111@randvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Mar-86 12:01:12 EST Article-I.D.: randvax.111 Posted: Thu Mar 13 12:01:12 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 21:08:40 EST References: <2682@pucc-h> <5170001@acf4.UUCP> <233@drutx.UUCP> <7660@watdaisy.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 30 There's been some discussion about 1st vs. 2nd class Eurail passes. I've used both, but in my wise old age, I'll take the 1st class pass anyday. The first time in Europe, 1978, I had the 2nd class Youth pass. I went in the winter, and generally did not have much problem getting a seat, but little niceties were missing, like heat, and EVERYbody smoked (who cares what that sign says). Last fall, I decided to go with a 1st class pass, and I loved it. Clean windows & cars, bigger seats that recline some, more polite people (generally the older Europeans), and people who obeyed the No Smoking sections. In fact, on the Paris - Geneva train, there were "stewardesses" that served a nice breakfast (about $4) to your seat, and that was first class only. A couple of times we had trouble finding seats (no reservations on our part), so we sat in the dining car until some people got off. This was on the popular Zurich to Salzburg (to Vienna) route. We looked at it from the standpoint that the trains are part of the vacation, not just a mode of transportation. And for us, we enjoyed that part of the trip very much -- get a bottle of wine and enjoy the view! P.S. You still meet locals in 1st class. -- Patricia Boren decvax!randvax!boren boren@rand-unix.arpa