Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site vaxine.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!wanginst!vaxine!wmp From: wmp@vaxine.UUCP (Wayne Power) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Symbolic user names and RFS Message-ID: <47@vaxine.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Mar-86 20:49:58 EST Article-I.D.: vaxine.47 Posted: Thu Mar 13 20:49:58 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Mar-86 20:44:00 EST Organization: Automatix, Inc., Billerica, MA Lines: 29 Dif'rent strokes... We have maintained the same username/uid/gid and group membership mapping on our four vaxen for two years. Dump and tar tapes can be read on any machine without a find . -exec chown follow up. The ability to move users and groups of users around without worrying about the uid stuff made it well worth our while to whop up the utilities to maintain the password and group files, add users and do all that good administrative stuff. Now enter RFS. The server builds tables of all the passwd and group files from all the machines to which it is providing service as well as every ~user/.rhost it can find on the local machine. If all our users used ~/.rhosts, each instance of the server would be over 400K. We could not use RFS under these conditions. (Can you say "out of swap space"? :-) By doing away with these tables, each server is now about 90K. Startup is much faster as well. I will make these changes available to anyone who wants them after I run them by toddb. I can't help but chuckle a bit when I read about the ls -l and chown problems. Maintaining the uid/gid mapping seems to be the easiest fix. Admittedly, this can be a real pain in the ass to implement on systems that have lived as separate entities under different administration for a while. Good luck to you folk. If anybody is interested in our passwd/group maintenance stuff, please send me e-mail. --wmp Wayne Power Automatix Inc. Billerica, MA vaxine!wmp