Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site gould9.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!gould9!joel From: joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Unix(tm) is a trademark... Message-ID: <409@gould9.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Mar-86 11:52:38 EST Article-I.D.: gould9.409 Posted: Mon Mar 24 11:52:38 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Mar-86 05:27:31 EST References: <110@atari.UUcp> <147@olamb.UUCP> <3791@pur-ee.UUCP> <546@uel> <895@kitty.UUCP> Organization: CACI, Inc. -- La Jolla, Calif. Lines: 37 In article <895@kitty.UUCP>, larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > Seriously though, I wonder why AT&T never registered the trademark; > I would think that if AT&T was really serious about usage enforcement, they > would have made the effort at registration. I believe, since AT&T wasn't legally in the computer businness when they developed UNIX, they probably didn't want to/couldn't make overt acts towards acting like they were. No one doubts that AT&T has many well-paid lawyers. The general consensus is that if AT&T could register the trademark, they would. > "C3. The trademark UNIX may not be used in a hyphenated expression > as `UNIX-based' or `UNIX-like.'" I believe AT&T is trying to scare (convince) the UNIX community into giving their unregistered trademark more protection than it has been given in the past, in order to avoid having UNIX becoming a generic (and thus unprotectable) term. There are two interesting precedents: 1. "Xerox", as in "xerox this for me, will you?" The Xerox Corp. ran a "public awareness" campaign about 3 years ago, at the same time "TV Guide" did. Both were aimed at journalists in particular, because of: 2. The Monsanto decision. The word "Formica" was held by the Supreme Court to be a generic term for laminated materials (much like "aspirin") because Monsanto had not taken effort to protect their product. There's no problem, I believe, in calling something a "trademark of..." as long as no one else has registered the term. If two companies have a similar, un-registered trademark, I don't know what happens. Did I mention that the MacDonalds Corp. is suing all Macintosh developers (including Apple) for use of the term 'Mac' as a modifier in any product name (MacDraw, MacWrite, MacTutor, etc...)