Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site anasazi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!noao!terak!mot!anasazi!john From: john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) Newsgroups: net.video Subject: Re: Satellite Signal Scrambling Message-ID: <641@anasazi.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Mar-86 10:10:39 EST Article-I.D.: anasazi.641 Posted: Thu Mar 13 10:10:39 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Mar-86 10:49:56 EST References: <156@jc3b21.UUCP> <733@ihlpm.UUCP> <453@ccivax.UUCP> <747@well.UUCP> Reply-To: john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) Organization: Anasazi, Phoenix Az. Lines: 47 In article <747@well.UUCP> tenney@well.UUCP (Glenn S. Tenney) writes: >subscribe; Why can't there be a dish clearing house (a dish "cable" >company) that pays the fee requested (eg. 3,000 x $13 or whatever) but >charges each dish owner their FAIR SHARE plus a small profit. I think >the amounts HBO are charging dish owners is ludicrous and exhorbitant >($12.95 for just HBO) when they don't have ANY extra costs expended to >provide you that service! > >References: from Electronic Engineering Times 3 March 1986 pg 11 > HBO Hotline (800) HBO-DISH > The Black Box Solution (a how to build your own descrambler) Such things exist. Here in the Phoenix metropolitan area, Golden West Cablevision will sell you HBO for $8.00/month. It seems natural that such services will evolve. The real danger to those of us owning dishes is that the satellite providers will use different unscramblers. Then, the capital cost rather than the monthly charge will kill you eventually. I have read that the justice department is investigating the "scrambling consortium" for antitrust. This could cause them to use different unscramblers! > 4014 Central Ave. > Hot Springs, Ark. 71913 (501)321-1845 I heard that someone was showing a pirate descrambler at the recent Las Vegas show, but that all they were showing was a videotape of the result. Is this the group? I smell a scam. They could be doing one of the following: (1) Showing how to unscramble the video (easy anyway) but not how to do the audio (apparently very difficult). (2) Showing how to build an unscrambler but not how to get the keys (build your own Videocipher II). That would technically satisfy their claims but not be of any use. (3) Taking the money and running. (4) Showing you how to rip off HBO. Has anyone yet determined which of these is true? -- John Moore (NJ7E/XE1HDO) {decvax|ihnp4|hao}!noao!terak!anasazi!john {hao!noao|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!terak!anasazi!john terak!anasazi!john@SEISMO.CSS.GOV (602) 861-7607 (day or evening) 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Paradise Valley, AZ, 85253 (Home Address) The opinions expressed here are obviously not mine, so they must be someone else's.