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From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Offensensistivity II
Message-ID: <2148@watdcsu.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 9-Mar-86 02:26:10 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar  9 02:26:10 1986
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In article <661@frog.UUCP> wjr@frog.UUCP (STella Calvert) writes:
>In article <2088@watdcsu.UUCP> dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) writes:
>>You seem to be trying to confirm this theory I have about feminists.
>>Any line or quote that *can* be interpreted in a manner that is
>>insulting to women *will* be interpreted in a manner that is insulting
>>to women, even if it takes a lot of stretching, even if it takes a
>>logical fallacy (as it did in the case of Fr.  Woolley's joke), even if
>>the author intended no insult and no normal reader would see the insult
>>unless he/she was looking for one.
>
>I'd like to gently object to your use of "feminist".  Sure I know what
>you mean, and if, in private mail, you want to compare lists, I'd bet
>we're both flamed at the same gals who spend half their day collecting
>grudges and the other half flaming about them.
>
>But some of us refuse to let "politically correct" "feminists" dictate
>our attitudes and behavior as firmly as we refuse to let men or any
>other group define our selfhood.

Unfortunately, it's the "politically correct feminists" who express
themselves the most by appearing in mass media, giving lectures, and
protesting, etc. and so I (and probably many others) came to think of
them as *the* feminists.  Sorry about lumping you in with them.  I
suspect, on the basis of some of your postings, that you don't share
their fondness for solving problems with legislative solutions that
involve dramatically increasing government power.

>>The quote from Aristotle may be taken as referring to unfaithfulness
>>in general, but no, it "obviously" had to be intended as a deliberate
>>insult aimed at women.  Though, sometimes, it will be my intention
>>to insult and offend feminists, it will not be my intention to insult
>>women.
>
>Couldn't you just insult the women who act like idiots, and let those
>of us who may or may not describe ourselves as feminists USE the word if
>we find it useful.

Better still, I won't be insulting people.  (Though I will occasionally
offend.)  That last sentence was a test to see if anybody would read
into it an implication that feminists aren't women.  Nobody took the
bait.
-- 
David Canzi

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