Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 System V-beta 12/2/85; site fai.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!saber!qubix!wjvax!fai!ronc From: ronc@fai.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian) Newsgroups: net.columbia Subject: Re: Morton-Thiokol Engineering Claims Message-ID: <106@fai.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Mar-86 13:31:23 EST Article-I.D.: fai.106 Posted: Fri Mar 14 13:31:23 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Mar-86 08:00:54 EST References: <1301@decwrl.DEC.COM> <758@ism780c.UUCP> <6442@utzoo.UUCP> <591@mmm.UUCP> Reply-To: ronc@fai.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian) Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc. Lines: 31 >Imagine the best-case scenario: they went to the media, and such an outcry >was raised that the launch was postponed for a couple days and finally launched >without problems. What do you think those management types (who are *still* >arguing that the decision to launch was sound - even though it quite obviously >was not) would do to the renegade engineers? That's right - their careers would >be over. **** You are describing a well known management ploy: Insist loudly and frequently that you are right in the face of all evidence and laws of physics to the contrary. I think someone once called this 'the big lie'. The point is that the individuals who made the mistake can keep their jobs if they bull it through. By the way, what happened to the rumor about telephone records showing someone from the white house staff telling nasa to 'get that damn thing up' so it could be in orbit when the president gave his state of the union address? If this is true, seems to me there's more to share the blame than the management at Morton-Thiokol. Ron -- -- Ronald O. Christian (Fujitsu America Inc., San Jose, Calif.) ihnp4!pesnta!fai!ronc Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: "If you are seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it."