Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site haddock Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ima!haddock!trb From: trb@haddock Newsgroups: net.games.chess Subject: Re: Perfect Play? Message-ID: <102100013@haddock> Date: Tue, 11-Mar-86 11:01:00 EST Article-I.D.: haddock.102100013 Posted: Tue Mar 11 11:01:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 31-Mar-86 03:37:29 EST References: <2916@sunybcs.UUCP> Lines: 34 Nf-ID: #R:sunybcs.UUCP:2916:haddock:102100013:000:1528 Nf-From: haddock!trb Mar 11 11:01:00 1986 > Whenever a player makes a move, the pointer traverses to the > corresponding node through the corresponding arc. The player than picks > up the point value of the arc and adds it to his score. So at any given > moment of the game, the player who has the lower score is making less > deviation from a perfect play. > The question is: > > IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE LOSER OF THE GAME TO ACTUALLY HAVE > ACQUIRED LOWER SCORE? IN OTHER WORD, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE LOSER TO HAVE > MADE FEWER DEVIATION FROM A PERFECT PLAY EVEN THOUGH HE LOST THE GAME?? Clearly, in most any position with substantial material on the board, either player can win, with the help of the other player. Let's say I (a mediocre player) am playing a grandmaster. After 25 moves, I may be busted, with the GM having racked up a big "score." Within a few helpful blunderous moves, he can help me mate him. Higher score, but still lost. This isn't a typical situation, but applies to a more subtle extent in actual play. (I regret that I know this from personal experience.) Herein lies your problem: > Therefore, it seems that the one who wins is the one who makes the fewer > mistakes during the couse of the game. This isn't true. What is essentially true is that the last player to get caught making a mistake loses. Also, it is practically impossible to come up with exact scores for positions early in the game. We make judgement calls, which is what gives chess its variety. Andrew Tannenbaum Interactive Boston, MA 617-247-1155