Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!brahms!weemba From: weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) Newsgroups: net.jokes.d Subject: Re: Satire for the masses Message-ID: <12692@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 26-Mar-86 23:10:26 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12692 Posted: Wed Mar 26 23:10:26 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Mar-86 05:47:04 EST References: <435@ccivax.UUCP> <13400007@uiucdcsp> <12239@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <12562@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <117@gilbbs.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 140 In article <117@gilbbs.UUCP> mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Tom Keller) writes: > If Riordan could write a reasonable approximation of an English sentence, >and spell (not to mention be funny) I might enjoy his "satire". ^^^^^ You really missed out, Tom. The misspellings were DELIBERATE. > Matthew, I enjoy satire very much. I have a fairly well developed sense >of humour. I simply do not see any humour in Riordan's ranting and raving. Then let's try to help. Remember, his first article was in response to an article of mine. I was at first stunned out of wits by the drugged out response I got, and then I realized it was satire, and I cracked up. >Message-ID: <358@unirot.UUCP> >My friend Pete who studies this stuff a lot says that mathematics is >just an allusion made up by God, that if we used our minds and just ^^^^^^^^ Not an illusion? Logically, an allusion is an allusion to something? But to what here? Nice, clever vacuousness. >believed that one thing could become two things, it could happen! There >are people who are keeping that knowledge secret so that they alone can >exorcise that great power, brainwashing the rest of us to think otherwise. ^^^^^^^^ They exorcise that great power? Not exercise, notice. Rather the opposite. >Of course, they're all wealthy. But you would probably just call them ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of course! >"nut cases" because to admit their right would just blow you away, man! >You should get exposed to some real science, the culture of the great ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Eastern mystics. My friend Pete knows one of them real well, and he has ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Eastern mystics are some real science? Is he contradicting himself on accident or on purpose Tom? Who's kidding whom? >your closed brain system. (Pete says this is sort of like left brain >right brain kind of stuff, but it depends which way you're facing at the >time.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ It depends which way you are facing at the time? This is the funniest line in all his postings. CJ is brilliant! >It's mighty clear to me that your Western definition of evidence is to >limited to be worth anything. I mean, you would reject ESP, telephonesis, ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Telephonesis? Like, when you dial telephones in your mind? >the Bremuda Triangle, ancient astronauts, and UFO's, and I KNOW they exist, ^^^^ >because my aunt saw one! I have witnessed all of these things at least ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ >second hand, and probably so have you, but your dogmatic Western mind won't ^^^^^^^^^^^ THEY exist. They here is richly ambiguous, referring possibly to ESP, tele- phonesis, etc., or just UFOs. Either way, his aunt saw ONE. Not he. He's WITNESSED all these things SECOND hand? Beautiful cut at Charles Berlitz and company. Is CJ out and out calling ESPers stupid or isn't he? Since the answer is yes, and he's calling himself an ESPer, he's mocking himself and his subject. Thus, satire. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <362@unirot.UUCP> >Summary: awstruck admiration? >The truth is what you believe it to be. My friend Pete, the one who's >serious about studying the mystical sciences, told me about this book called >The Tower of Physics or something like that. This guy wrote that while ^^^^^ As opposed to The Tao of Physics. He sure knows his mystical sources, eh? Wouldn't forget such wonderful Eastern notions like Tao so quickly, would he? >we each have our experiences we're in our own special cosmic subspace >where our energies flow and where many worlds merge to form one hole. It's >like a shrubbery where we all represent invidual leaves, which all fall >down on the same ground. And all our prospectives are equally valid. >God is the glue that bonds our separate realities together to form the >ultimate reality, like the guy in the commercial hanging from the girdle by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >his helmet. We can tap the energies within us to transform our beliefs >into reality, like with ESP, or UFOS, or anything else you want to believe. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >People like that guy Weiner who called anybody who believed in ESP a nut >case are really nut cases themselves. They refuse to participate in the >ultimate reality that we are all making through our belief energies, and >their negative belief energy hurts the rest of us by interfering with the >realization of our beliefs. I'm sure any good ESP researcher can document ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the reasons for this better than I can. Now if this doesn't crack you up as an amazing collection of wonderful sounding mish mash with no content, Tom, then I feel sorry for you. It is a bunch of meaningless noise, and CJ damn well knows it. Besides, the book had nothing to do with the above. But if you still didn't think CJ was funny satire, read the following satire on ZEN. Not on Western science. On ZEN. >By the way, Pete's still studying Zen investing in night school as part of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >his independent mystical studies program. He hasn't made any money yet, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >but his instructor says that's the way it's supposed to work as a learning ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >experience. He brings in all the money he has to invest and the instructor ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >takes it away and smacks his face with a wooden board! I still can't make ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >heads or tails of that cosmic stuff unless I've had a tab of acid or a good ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >hit from the bong. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Like, wow. Can I sign up for this course too? All this Zen money making sounds wonderful. Wow. Message-ID: <363@unirot.UUCP> >Summary: Sorry, Ethan, I forgot one thing > >Ethan, I hope I have clarified any conceptions you had about my last >article being sartre. ^^^^^^ Just a bad speller, isn't he? Just a remarkable coincidence that his random de-luded spelling scheme came up with the great Existentialist philosopher himself here, right? Apply a little rational deduction here Tom. Look how many words CJ does spell right. Most of them. Including the big ones. The ones he gets wrong just HAPPEN to come up as interesting alternative and self-mocking in meaning? No. When it comes to mocking, CJ beat everyone to the punch. ucbvax!brahms!weemba Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720